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Post subject: Oliver Stone blames the movie Patton for genocide
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Yes folks you read that title right.
I dropped by Costco this weekend and I saw the Patton 2-DVD Collector Edition for sale and I thought sweet I love this movie. So I watched the movie and when it was done I popped in the supplemental DVD for the Making of Patton documentary. The documentary was a little dry for my tastes but all documentaries are but it was still interesting to hear about how one of my favorite movies of all times was made.
And then comes film hack director Oliver Stone to ruin Patton for me. In his EXACT WORDS Oliver Stone blatantly and unblinkingly says that Patton was directly responsible for the Cambodian genocide in the Vietnam years.
His logic is that Patton was one of Richard Nixon's favorite movies. Okay fair enough because it is one of mine too. Patton was pro-war and after watching repeated viewings of Patton in the Oval Office with his family, Richard Nixon's "hawkish daughter" had daddy order that the US to intervene in Cambodia which pissed off the Rebels -The Khmer Rogue- so much that they slaughtered millions of Cambodians in retaliation.
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Who the fuck is this asshole?
First off Patton -like a lot of Stanly Kubrick's work- was very open ended and there was no clear cut right or wrong so the film was left up to the audience. It was also documented that pacifists and war hawks all liked the movies because each group found what they wanted in it. The hippies found the movie to be very anti war during a very anti war era while the pro military people believed it was a very heroic war movie about a brilliant general. Personally I believe it is a movie that chronicled a very complex but likable American figure. If Stone thought that the movie was pro-war then that's what he took from the movie so I cant bite him for that.
Patton directly contributed to genocide? What kind of 'JFK' magic bullet is Oliver Stone firing out of his gaping asshole of a mouth to make sense of that? Saying that a US President was so directly affected by a movie to change wartime strategy makes no sense. So maybe if Nixon's favorite movie was M*A*S*H he would have pulled out of Vietnam? If Richard Nixon was watching Planet of the Apes he would have declared a war against monkeys before they could overthrow humanity? Saying that anyone is stupid enough to let a Hollywood movie dictate wartime procedure is a reflection of the asshole making that assumption. Fuck not even Rambo has that kind of effect on politicians and generals.
And here's another loop in your logic Ollie: It was the Rebels who DIRECTLY killed the millions of Cambodian people. You are using Chaos Theory to shift the blame away from the psychopaths with guns and machetes and trying to force connections for personal gain.
So let's take Oliver Stone's logic and use it like this: You live in Kansas and your house gets destroyed by a tornado. You have tornado insurance but the slimy insurance agent says that you don't have Cow Insurance. You ask why the fuck you need Cow Insurance when it was a fucking Tornado that destroyed your fucking house and the grease-ball Insurance Agent says: "It's chaos theory: A cow farted in a pasture and that fart grew and grew until it created a tornado that destroyed your house."
Finally my personal favorite statement from Oliver Stoned:
Nixon's hawkish daughter pushed her father into Cambodia.
So most girls ask their daddy for a pony but Richard Nixon's pea soup-vomiting hell-spawn daughter wanted him to carpet bomb Cambodia... and for piano lessons.
You're no longer high, you are beyond perma-fried. You have smoked yourself retarded.
So both during and after taking these ballsy and absurd verbal shits what does Oliver Stone do? Why he jumps right into plugging his own movies.
Not direct quotes but the exact same gist:
"Only two movies have ever made a political impact on the US. One was Patton with the Cambodian genocide and [his movie] JFK."
"We wanted to use clips of Patton in my biography film of Richard Nixon but George C. Scott refused and to this day I don't understand why."
Maybe because you were going to try to take a shit on the film and character portrayal that George C. Scott holds dear, you fucknut.
Oliver Stone: "I think it is because he realizes the truth that his work contributed to the murder of millions."
Get fucked, Ollie.
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Post subject: Re: Oliver Stone blames the movie Patton for genocide
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:46 am |
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LOL!!!!
I'm tempted towards making this rant a feature on the site.
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Post subject: Re: Oliver Stone blames the movie Patton for genocide
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:18 am |
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Oliver Stone is just another Hollywood blowhard. The only way to hurt his image is to ignore him not post a whole forum topic about it.
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Post subject: Re: Oliver Stone blames the movie Patton for genocide
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:53 pm |
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Alexander is no more than a bloated, misguided attempt at mixing epic filmmaking, sociopolitical commentary, and heavy psychological drama. As a result of its own incertitude, Alexander ends up failing on virtually all counts. And Oliver Stone is making up criticisms against the war epic Patton, the film that actually accomplishes everything the movie Alexander was supposed to do? It is just Oliver Stone's pathetic attempt to create controversy where there is none by acting like a spoiled child who always has to be the center of attention.
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Post subject: Re: Oliver Stone blames the movie Patton for genocide
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:37 pm |
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Oliver Stone is a dancing queen, only seventeen, oh yeaa- *cough* *clear throat* Excuse me.
Oliver Stone is cracked, plain and simple. Is there any wonder that he may make crack-headed comments like Patton causing genocide when he is (or was recently) admitted into rehabilitation for actually doing crack, or cocaine?
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Post subject: Re: Oliver Stone blames the movie Patton for genocide
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:59 am |
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KennyFarino wrote: Oliver Stone is a dancing queen, only seventeen, oh yeaa- *cough* *clear throat* Excuse me. If you are on a ABBA kick just do mankind a favor and dont watch Mama Mia. My sister's boyfriend is subjected to it almost weekly by her and I think that waterboarding would be more humane.
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Post subject: Re: Oliver Stone blames the movie Patton for genocide
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Alex_J wrote: KennyFarino wrote: Oliver Stone is a dancing queen, only seventeen, oh yeaa- *cough* *clear throat* Excuse me. If you are on a ABBA kick just do mankind a favor and dont watch Mama Mia. My sister's boyfriend is subjected to it almost weekly by her and I think that waterboarding would be more humane. Mama Mia..... I saw an old man with eyes tattood on his bare ass and then a dance troop of half-naked men can-can-kicking across a beach wearing flippers. My aunt and my cousin still think it's one of the best movies they've ever seen. They said it was almost as good as 'X-men Origins: Wolverine'. 
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Post subject: Re: Oliver Stone blames the movie Patton for genocide
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:28 pm |
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Oh deeeeear. See, I'm not high or mad enough to actually go watch that tripe. When the commercials were around, Dancing Queen was drilled into my brain but I still hated the very concept of the movie.
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Post subject: Re: Oliver Stone blames the movie Patton for genocide
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:45 pm |
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I was invited to my Cousin and her husband's house for dinner and I graciously accepted. I walked in on the last half of Mama Mia and I was like: "Did I miss something??"
So while dinner was cooking, they set the movie to play again and I was like "WTF?"
Then DURING dinner and after the movie played again for the THIRD time. And of course, when you're at someone's house, you never knock what they are watching unless they're cool like that.
The only thing that kept me sane during the whole ordeal was that I was riffing the movie in the back of my mind.
"Eyes tattood on his ass?? If I had eyes tattood on my ass it'd look like Chewbacca!"
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Post subject: Re: Oliver Stone blames the movie Patton for genocide
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:50 pm |
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Yeeshh this conversation went from Patton to eyes-on-asses. Derailed much?
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you have to see this movie!
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