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I actually agree with the 'gimmick' comment. Believe me, I would have forked out the money to pick up a Wii, but when it came out there were no games I wanted for it... and there still isn't. A couple games like 'Super Smash Bros' and 'MadWorld' look good, but it's not enough worth buying a whole console for.

I just saw more potential in the PS3 and Xbox 360. The Xbox has a community of gamers and (earlier on) had all of the exclusives like 'Mass Effect' and 'Gears of War'. Now the PS3 is a multimedia powerhouse, and is the center of my home theater. The PS3 has the most exclusives that I wanted to play (Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, LittleBigPlanet, Valkyria Chronicles, Ninja Gaiden Sigma [never played the Xbox version but again with the 'buy a console for 1 game' situation]) plus the major blockbusters (GTAIV, Bioshock, Dead Space, Resident Evil 5, etc).

Yeah, everyone still bitches about the price point, even if the cheap version of the console (40GB model) is still $399, the same as an Xbox 360 Elite. But what I got bonus with my PS3 over the 360 was wireless internet and hi-def movies, as well as the EVER ESSENTIAL (GET THIS PART THROUGH YOUR FUCKING HEADS, SONY!) "Playstation 2 Backwards Compatibility" (I got the launch 60GB model ).

There is also a ton of bitching about the six-axis and how it sucks. Most of these conversations target the abysmal game 'Lair', but never make mention of games like 'Folklore', 'Warhawk', or even 'Rag Doll Kung Foo' which make GREAT and INNOVATIVE use of the six-axis without feeling 'gimmicky'. If you want to talk 'gimmicks' play "Mortal Kombat: Armageddon" on the Wii and tell me that the motion controls weren't forced into the game at gunpoint by Nintendo.

You're also spot on with the 'party game' mentality. I've never played 'Sing Star' but 'BUZZ' is probably one of the best party games, ever. I'm not much of a 'Rock Band' or 'Guitar Hero' fan because the notion of teens thinking they are rock stars by tapping buttons on a plastic controller is .... just retarded.

Still lacking with the PS3 is a solid online community, but FPS fans should take note of 'Resistance 2' and 'Killzone 2', which both have critically acclaimed online multiplayer modes that go outside of 'deathmatch' and 'capture the flag'. Also the fact that online gaming is still completely free, whereas I used to pay to get game demos and play online against foul-mouthed morons. Not saying that Sony hasn't totally embarrassed themselves with online features, like HOME...

All in all, I can honestly say that I honestly enjoy my PS3 more than my Xbox 360. Mostly because I think online gaming sucks because of all the 11 year-olds screaming obscenities into my ear-piece, and that I'm not getting anything more than a game console for the money.

Will I get a Wii? Maybe when Nintendo decides to grow up a little. I can't stomach much more Mario Party, Mario Kart, Mario Olympics, Mario Pro Bass Fishing, Mario Tentacle Hentai, Animal Crossing, or the other lame "Jap-Crap" that is literally WATER-BOARDING American-gamers. Seriously, shoving lame games down our throats IS TORTURE.

A Wii Zelda game would be the deal-maker for me purchasing a Wii, but until then I'll be more than comfortable with my PS3.

IM not a fan of the p3. i would get one but they are liek 600 bucks. i work min wage and i cant afford a video game system like that. IM a casual gamer soi stick with emulated games on my computer because you can have 500 games and it wont cost you anything. I dont play games that much anyways like some of my friends so a Wii would probably be better for me than a bigger system with less casual games.

To each his or her own. But if you aren't in the 'Hard Core' gamer then a PS3 is probably too beefy. If, however, you want a good Multimedia system for your home theater, the PS3 is probably one of your best bets.

A playstation 3 a better party game than a Wii? That's a load of rubbish

I invite my friends over to my flat every other Saturday and we play the sports game with the bowling and tennis, and Mario Cart, and, um-

Then we watch a movie

REAL party games are scarce on all game consoles.

you can also do all that multi-media stuff with a PC. so would that make the PC more of a better party system than the PS3? Just because people know how to use the PS3 that come over does not make it a better system than the Wii. I am sure that if you had the Wii set up or there they would be making their characters on the Wii and trying out some of the games on there.

I had the ability to use a PS3 for a couple of months. I was able to experience what the P3 held and I was very disappointed. Not only was it not backwards compatible but, it did not have games for me or my friends or family to play together. If I wanted to play a game with my friends like MUA, I was stuck with the 360 since I could not play it on the PS3. If I wanted to watch a movie, I had to bust out my DVD player since: A) I don't think it is worth going to blue ray at the moment, and B) All my movie collection is on DVD so I will use my DVD player that I can set a remote to instead of having to fool around with the controller.

The Wii is fun. more fun and easy to use than the PS3. you have a bigger selection of fun games (mario party, Rayman series, Mario Cart, SSB, boom blox, sports games, I really dont need to go on) not to mention I can be completely backwards compatible with the game cube or download ALL of Nintendo's games from past consoles and play them without the gimick of the Wii wand. PS3 is stuck with PS1 games or be lucky enough to have a backwards compatible system for the PS2 games.

when I think about throwing a party and having a game system up and running, its the Wii that I want up since I know that the Xbox or PS3 might have games that will offend or leave out someone there. with the Wii, I know that what they see will be safe and I know that anyone from my 8 year old girl to my older brother will be able to enjoy anything on that system. That is true entertainment when I can engage those age groups with the same media.

even with the price of the lower model ($400 for the 40 gig?) I still have to buy controllers ($50*3) ($550 total so far), and that means I get three games for a total of $700. The Wii ($250) + controllers including 'chuck ($50) leaves me another $300 for games which can range anywhere from $5 for crappy games or $50 for overpriced games (boom blox). the price of entertainment still goes to the Wii.

I will leave the fight between the 360 and PS3 alone. In my mind the Xbox kicks the PS3 ass since the dumb asses at Sony wont make it a standard for backwards compatibility on the PS3. so I went with the 360 even though the graphics and gameplay on the PS3 is superior. but, you are out of your mind if you think that the PS3 is a better party system than the Wii.

Wow a little passionate about the Nintendo Wii ay Zimes?

But you do make really strong points.

Only if you could actually play a PC game with 3 other people on the same machine. That's not that common. Most PC games are 1 player or online multi.

Fair enough, but that's also why the Wii never appealed to me: no games I wanted to play. Semantics.

MUA is on the PS3. Are you talking online or with people at your house? We're gearing the convo for couch gaming with friends.

Whatever works for you. Can't bash personal preference.

I AGREE 100%. SEROUSLY. One of the ONLY times my old man EVER played video games was with the Wii. He must have played Wii Tennis for like a solid hour, working up a sweat and having lots of fun. He tried playing Madden on my PS3 and gave up because there was a damned button for passing, one for looking at the guy you want to pass to, a directional pad for moving, one for the camera, blah blah blah.

Wii has a huge selection of games, but if you rank them in MetaCritic.com, most are commonly reviewed as 'mediocre' where as the PS3 has a higher ratio of critically acclaimed games. Quality over quantity.

If by "ALL of Nintendo's games" you mean "Most popular", then you're right. There's a ton of games that haven't been available on the Wii Store yet, though most of them really suck. *COUGH* LJN Games *COUGH* Also, the library of past Nintendo games can compare to the PS1 and PS2 libraries?

Yeah, the PS2 B/C being removed was a stupid STUPID mistake. Point taken.

I will tip my hat to you on this. Nintendo Wii is probably the safest console for family fun. There isn't much for online gaming on a Wii (the Wii Online Experience is like trying to place catch with a billboard in between), but it is that much safer. Also, 99% of the games are for younger audiences, so the odds of one of your kids being desensitized to violence is a lot lower than with Xbox or PS3 games. (The missing 1% is for Manhunt 2, the most violent game in history that uses Wii motion control to kill with knives, etc.)

Always the price point. If we are going to break it down, let's take your figure, then do the following: Add a DVD player to your Wii ($75, a cheap one ). Now how about those DL games? You need something to use to play them (Wii has 2 buttons, SNES games use 4, N64 use 6-9), so we'll add 4 Wii Classic Controllers ($20) so you and your friends can play GoldenEye 64. But first you have to connect the Wii to the internet. No wireless, no problem. Just an extra $25 for the Wii LAN Adaptor. So now the Wii is at $580 and is closer to being on par with the basic hardware functionality of a $550 PS3 (4 controllers), minus the 80GB hard drive for music and movies.

So if a B/C PS3 reemerged, you'd get one?

I'll be fair to the 360 and say 'semantics' again. I probably am. But it does depend on who the target audience is. if it's for hard core gamers, go with a PS3. For family-friendly fun, get the Wii.

We all have our preferences, that's all I'm saying

yeah, just making a point.yeah but, how many of those games on the PS3 brought out the phrases: "bullshit!", "cheating f**kers!", or "cum-guzling cock-suckers!" in a party with the games of the Wii you are up, having fun, and laughing your ass off? no, I had it for the PS2 but, I would have to go rent it or buy MUA again just to play it on a non B/C console.*ahem* Lair *ahem* every console has shitty games but, going for fun and entertainment value Wii still has it over the PS3I would think not. Nintentdo was around for quite a few years before PS1 even came out. even with 1/2 the games that came out for Nintendo available you would still beat out all the games available for the PS series. and I am sure that you can find some awesome old time games that no one can argue about.they really need to get off their ass and fix that. it really pisses me off that they thought that was something they could skimp out on. knives? I want one. I mean where can I find that game?still have you beat for game prices. not only that but I am sure that you would not ever have to buy a DVD player since you probably already have one. just because you make an all in one doesn't mean it can function as well as the different items separately. As far as I know I can not get a universal remote and control the PS3 with it. but if we are comparing apples to apples the price to purchase a blue ray player would kill the price difference anyways.no, I went to my nearest game stop and they looked at me like I was retarded. Pretty much said that Amazon pulled them out of their ass since they were lost in a warehouse somewhere. if you know where I can get one let me know.I thought this was not. I thought that the 360 had 128 bit graphics while the PS3 went with 256.

how many fights to you get in with you're friends over a console game that is not a Wii (even if its just wrestling matches)?

Actually, LlamaPockets and I spar over Xbox vs PS3 all the time. But I only ever 'argue' (not 'fight') with people I know don't take it all that seriously. If someone got really bent out of shape over an argument like this, it's not worth the hassle.

But I always love a good debate.